Legislature(1999 - 2000)

03/17/1999 08:03 AM House URS

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HB 62 - ALASKA PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HUDSON announced the first order of business is HB 62, "An                                                             
Act relating to the Alaska Public Utilities Commission; and                                                                     
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HUDSON indicated there is a proposed committee substitute                                                              
and called for a motion to adopt it.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 0102                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY made a motion and asked unanimous consent to                                                             
adopt the proposed committee substitute for HB 62 (1-LS0327\H,                                                                  
Cramer, 3/15/99) for discussion purposes.  There being no                                                                       
objection, it was so adopted.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HUDSON called on the sponsor.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 0167                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
WILDA RODMAN, Legislative Administrative Assistant to                                                                           
Representative Gene Therriault, Alaska State Legislature, stated                                                                
the sponsor is not here because of a conflict with a House Finance                                                              
Standing Committee meeting.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HUDSON announced the arrival of Representatives Berkowitz                                                              
and Davies.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HUDSON stated the proposed committee substitute tightens                                                               
the title and isolates the bill to simply the expansion of the                                                                  
sunset date.  It also modifies the length of the sunset expansion                                                               
from the original bill.  He asked Ms. Rodman to speak to the                                                                    
proposed committee substitute.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. RODMAN stated the prime sponsor doesn't have a problem with the                                                             
length of the sunset, but the sponsor has a problem with splitting                                                              
the issues into separate bills.  Representative Therriault believes                                                             
that all the issues should be dealt with without ushering through                                                               
the sunset, otherwise problems might not get addressed.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0253                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY stated the important thing is the sunset and                                                             
any other issues that has been discussed in the past should be part                                                             
of a separate piece of legislation.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 0276                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HUDSON noted that was the consensus he started to hear                                                                 
from the committee members.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 0308                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PORTER understands the desire of the prime sponsor                                                               
and the urgency to try to do something to help the Alaska Public                                                                
Utilities Commission (APUC).  However, he is concerned because                                                                  
there are all sorts of things that people want to do to the APUC                                                                
for various reasons that could be added to a loose title subverting                                                             
the wishes of the sponsor and this committee.  He prefers the                                                                   
proposed committee substitute.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 0375                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOTT shares the same concerns of Representative                                                                  
Porter.  Having been in management/administration for most of his                                                               
life, he would like to do a lot of things that could benefit the                                                                
APUC.  And, if he's out there as 1 member of the legislature, there                                                             
are probably 59 other members that could equally do something                                                                   
similar.  He noted he could go either way with the length of the                                                                
sunset - two years or four years.  He supports the proposed                                                                     
committee substitute in its present form.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 0483                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HUDSON announced that this doesn't eliminate the other                                                                 
elements that have been before the committee.  He has instructed                                                                
staff to wait for the audit report, to look at the recommendations,                                                             
and to prepare a working document for the committee to discuss.  He                                                             
feels comfortable with the proposed committee substitute.  It's                                                                 
limited, tight and brings it back to the legislature in two years                                                               
which gives the legislature an opportunity to see what has happened                                                             
during that interim period of time.  It also gives the APUC enough                                                              
time to continue its operation without ending up in a fiscal or                                                                 
financial situation.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 0573                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAVIES agrees with the approach, but wonders whether                                                             
two years is enough time to evaluate, measure and judge any change,                                                             
assuming a bill is pushed through that makes changes.  He would                                                                 
feel more comfortable with three years.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0634                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN supports the two speakers prior to                                                                         
Representative Davies.  If there is a personality problem within                                                                
the commission, some of that will be taken care of within the next                                                              
few months.  The biggest issue is the inefficiency of the                                                                       
commission's operation and two years is certainly enough time to                                                                
see whether that has been corrected.  All of the problems might not                                                             
have been solved, but it will show whether it is on the right                                                                   
track.  He is concerned it might get shoved behind other issues                                                                 
with an arbitrary extension of three or four years, and in that                                                                 
case, nobody is really accountable.  He supports a two year                                                                     
extension.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0768                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PORTER made a motion to move the proposed committee                                                              
substitute for HB 62 (1-LS0327\H, Cramer, 3/15/99) out of committee                                                             
with individual recommendations and the attached fiscal note(s).                                                                
There being no objection, CSHB 62(URS) was so moved from the House                                                              
Special Committee on Utility Restructuring.                                                                                     

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